Chacun se fera sa propre opinion et mais ceci n'a rien d'officiel. Il s'agit de rumeur.
 
En conséquence je vous invite à prendre de très grosses pincettes quant au contenu du futur patch. Celui-ci n'est pour l'instant pas du tout cautionné par Blizzard, on le laise ici pour info (et comparaison quand le 1.8 sortira vraiment ^^)
 
 
voila le patch note 1.8 tel qu'il est actuellement surment issus d'une fuite des develloppeur ( me dite pas que c'est un fake même si il y a quelque erreur il y a tellement de détaille souvent sans importance que pour moi c'est surement pas un fake )
 
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/ [...] post399730
 
 World of Warcraft Client Patch 1.8.0 (2005-??-??)
 
--Azshara Crater
 
A blood war rages between the Quel’dorei Exiles and the Sunstrider Legion as they battle to the death to claim sources of ancient magic buried beneath the vast Azshara Crater. Destroy all opposing strongholds with mighty siege weapons to declare victory in this epic 40v40 battleground!
 
--Grubstone Cookoff
 
Simmer Grubstone sponsors this savory contest held in the town of Everlook in Winterspring. At the start of each week, participants will be given a series of increasingly difficult recipes to cook and brew. The best chefs in Azeroth will receive a lifetime supply of malt, an official Grubstone mug, and more fabulous prizes!
 
--Goblin Gizmo Gauntlet
 
Assemble robots to do battle via remote control against other players for engineering glory in this explosive event in Gadgetzan. Sign up for daily tournaments to win new parts to upgrade your invention! No engineering experience necessary.
 
--General
 
New Auction Houses in Stormwind, Darnassus, Thunderbluff, Undercity, Booty Bay, and Everlook are open and ready for business! Ask the guards in each city for directions. Auction Houses are now shared within a faction – Alliance, Horde, or the Steamwheedle Cartel. Extra heavy security in the form of Goblin Bouncers has been added to Auction Houses in goblin towns to put a stop to any… bidding wars.
A debuff prioritization system has been put into effect. Certain debuffs will now have priority (e.g. they cannot be overridden) over weaker or triggered debuffs when the number of debuffs on a mob reaches the maximum limit of 16.
Quickness (Night Elf Racial) – Now increases agility by 5%.
Escape Artist (Gnome Racial) – Casting time reduced to 0.5 seconds. Now has a 2 minute cooldown.
System performance when enabling the full screen glow effect improved.
Buff/debuff tooltips will now be correctly updated from talents.
Tauren can now ride wolves if they learn the wolfriding ability.
Attempting to cast a spell on a friendly target below the minimum level of the spell will now automatically cast the highest eligible rank.
You can no longer communicate with the other faction through mind control.
The effects of +healing and +spell damage items will now be shown in the tooltips of spells they affect.
Class buffs such as Arcane Intellect and Mark of the Wild are no longer dispellable.
Hearthstones can no longer be used while invulnerable.
Critters can no long resist spells.
Pets that enter combat will no longer flag their master for combat.
Talents that provide mana regeneration while casting will no longer fail to function after being logged in for a period of time.
Shapeshifting will no longer cancel a daze effect.
Spells that are cast on a target but have no effect due to the target’s death will no longer be reported in the combat log.
Warlock/Hunter pets can no longer break out of fear.
Fixed a bug that caused players to sometimes slide when walking.
Buffs that provide a bonus to resistance now stack with other resistance buffs.
Enemy spells cast before you die will no longer hit you when you are a ghost.
Players will no longer be randomly flagged for combat when not participating in combat.
Fixed a bug where creatures were sometimes able to parry attacks from behind.
It is no longer possible to break disarm by immediately switching your weapon.
 
--Macintosh
 
Fixed lag resulting from certain UI mods.
 
--PvP
 
Honor System
You will now receive some honor for restoring health to allies during PvP combat.
Dishonorable Kills will now apply only to the players responsible, rather than to their entire party or raid.
There is now an option that shows estimated honor points over enemy corpses after an Honorable Kill.
Battlegrounds
You can now exit a battleground from an option on the scoreboard at all times.
Siege weapon combat has been introduced to the Alterac Valley battleground.
Civilians can no longer fight.
NPCs in battlegrounds can no longer be mind controlled.
Feign Death will no longer make the flag graphic disappear for other players in Warsong Gulch.
Fixed several terrain exploits in Warsong Gulch.
You can no longer interact with tower banners and flags through walls in Alterac Valley.
Commander buffs are no longer removed when shapeshifting.
Fixed an exploit where Mind control and Fear could be used to send opposing players out of a battleground instance.
Fixed a bug that caused players who died in Frostmane hold in Alterac Valley to be ported to their faction’s entrance.
You can now enter the queues of multiple battlegrounds simultaneously. Once you become eligible and choose to enter a battleground, you will automatically leave the other battleground queues.
You can now see the number of players from the other faction in a battleground queue.
All players can now chat in the WorldDefense channel.
All debuffs resulting from a duel are now removed immediately after the duel ends.
Fixed an exploit that allowed players to reach Thrall in Orgrimmar without guard interference.
 
--Druids
 
Due to significant talent changes, Druids will have all talent points refunded and can be respent.
Your base damage in Bear and Cat Form is now determined by the DPS value of your equipped weapon (Note: your attack speed remains static at 1.0 in Cat Form and 2.5 in Bear Form). This change has been deemed necessary to provide Druids with a larger number of viable weapon choices at all levels, and a more straightforward method of improving feral damage beyond the maximum level cap. We believe that the increased damage of Druids in Cat Form (from wielding high DPS weapons) is acceptable, given the form’s damage dealing role. In our testing, however, we felt that Bear Form was dealing too much damage with certain weapons when taking into account its high damage mitigation and survivability. After considering a variety of solutions, we have decided to implement a flat 10% reduction to Bear Form’s base damage – which keeps the form in line with overall game balance, while resulting in greater damage potential.
You can no longer switch weapons during combat in shapeshift form.
Cat Form – Ability no longer purchased from a trainer. There is now a quest to obtain Cat Form.
Travel Form – New icon. Graphic also been replaced to look fiercer and have markings similar to other Druid forms.
Druids have learned to dance while shapeshifted.
There is now an animation for skinning and herb gathering in Bear and Cat Form.
Female Druids in Bear Form no longer sound like males.
Demoralizing Roar – Tooltip updated to display area of effect (in yards).
Entangling Roots – Now interrupts spellcasting.
Feral Charge – This ability will now port you even if the target is immune to the effect.
Ferocious Bite – Fixed a bug where combo points were lost on miss/dodge/parry/block.
Maul/Swipe – Tooltips updated to indicate the additional threat caused by these abilities. There have been no changes made to the amount of threat caused.
Moonfire – Now causes Nature damage instead of Arcane damage; initial damage decreased and damage over time increased.
Starfire – Now causes Nature damage instead of Arcane damage.
Nature’s Grasp – Special attacks (e.g. Heroic Strike, Eviscerate, etc…) will now allow the spell to root the target.
Improved Moonfire – Design changed. Now increases the damage over time of your Moonfire spell by 20/40/60/80/100%.
Swiftshifting – Design changed. When leaving a shapeshift form, your next spell has its casting time reduced by 0.5/1/1.5 sec.
Omen of Clarity – Can now proc in shapeshift form. Is now a prerequisite for the Inner Balance talent.
New Talent (Balance): Improved Faerie Fire – Tier 3 talent; Faerie Fire has a 50/100% chance to reduce your target’s Nature resistance for the duration.
Improved Thorns – Design changed. Now increases the damage done by your Thorns spell by 50/100/150%.
Moonfury – Removed and replaced by the new talent Nature’s Fury.
New Talent (Balance): Nature’s Fury – Increases your spell damage and critical strike chance by 1/2/3%.
Nature’s Grace – Design changed. Nature’s Grace is now a passive ability that causes all nearby party members to be healed for 10% of any spell damage the Druid deals. Is now a tier 4 talent.
Weapon Balance – Removed and replaced by the new talent Inner Balance.
New Talent (Balance): Inner Balance – Increases your maximum mana by 2/4/6/8/10%.
Veangence – No longer requires the Nature’s Grace talent. It now requires the Nature’s Fury talent.
Hurricane – Replaced in position by the new talent Dreamstate. Is now a targetable spell and a tier 5 talent.
New Talent (Balance): Dreamstate – Enter a Dreamstate, increasing your Nature damage by 15%, and increasing your mana regeneration while in shapeshift form by 100%. However, you may not cast healing spells while in this state.
Improved Demoralizing Roar – Removed and replaced in position by Primal Instinct.
Improved Prowl – In addition to reducing the chance of detection, this talent will now increase your speed while prowling by 3/6/9/12/15%.
Blood Frenzy – Is now a 3 point talent that gives your critical strikes from Cat Form abilities that add combo points a 50/75/100% chance to add an additional combo point.
Primal Fury – Is now a 2 point talent that gives you a 50/100% chance to gain an additional 5 rage anytime you get a critical strike while in Bear and Dire Bear Form.
Improved Shred – Talent removed.
Predatory Strikes – Design changed. Predatory Strikes is now a tier 6 talent that gives your Cat Form finishing moves a 50/100% chance to interrupt spellcasting and silence the target for one second per combo point.
Faerie Fire (Cat) – Talent removed.
Faerie Fire (Bear) – Talent removed.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Intimidation – Tier 5 talent; increases your threat while in Bear Form by 15/30%.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Feral Endurance – Tier 4 talent; increases your total health while in Bear, Dire Bear, or Cat Form by 2/4/6/8/10%.
Thick Hide – Design changed. Thick Hide now increases your armor value from items in Bear Form by 2/4/6/8/10%. Is now a tier 2 talent.
Feline Swiftness – This talent no longer increases your movement speed while prowled.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Alertness – Tier 5 talent; increases your defense skill by 4/7/10 in Bear Form and your chance to hit by 1/2/3% in Cat Form.
Strength of the Wild – Design changed. Strength of the Wild now increases the strength and agility of all nearby party members by 15% while the Druid is in Bear, Dire Bear, or Cat Form. No longer requires the Predatory Strikes talent. It now requires the Feral Endurance talent.
Improved Ravage – Removed and replaced by the new talent Fury of the Wild.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Fury of the Wild – Your next special attack has a 15/30/45% increased critical strike chance when entering Cat Form. In addition, you have a 20/30/40% chance to gain an extra rage point when damage is taken or dealt in Bear Form.
Improved Pounce – Removed and replaced by the new talent Primal Resilience.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Primal Resilience – Causes Frenzied Regeneration to covert each point of rage into an additional 0.2/0.3% of your total health and reduces the cooldown by 30/60 sec.
Primal Instinct – Is now a 5 point talent. The mana cost reduction of shapeshifting has not been changed. Replaced in position by the new talent Shapeshifting Mastery.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Shapeshifting Mastery – Grants the Druid the ability to shapeshift directly from one form to another at the cost of 25 rage from Bear Form, 50 energy from Cat Form, and the full mana cost of the Druid’s next shapeshift form from Travel and Aquatic Form. When shapeshifting from Bear to Cat Form, each additional 25 rage present adds 1 combo point if a target is selected.
Combat Endurance – Is now a 1 point talent that allows 25% of the Druid’s health regeneration to work in combat.
Improved Tranquility – Removed and replaced by the new talent Improved Rebirth.
New Talent (Restoration): Improved Rebirth – Reduces the cooldown of your Rebirth spell by 5/10 min.
 
 --Hunter
 
Specialized abilities have been added for the following pet types that did not receive them in the previous content patch:
Bears can learn the Roar ability, which lowers the attack power of all nearby enemies by a flat amount.
Turtles and Crabs can learn the Tough Shell ability, which gives them a chance to increase their armor value when hit.
Spiders can learn the Web ability, which immobilizes nearby enemies.
Distracting Shot – New icon.
New Pet Ability: Free Master – Causes your pet to free you from any snare or frost-based movement impairing effect.
Mend Pet – Range increased to 30 yards.
Pet happiness will be restored correctly to the full amount when resurrecting in a battleground.
 
--Mage
 
Arcane Missiles – Fixed a bug where occasionally no missiles would appear and no damage would be dealt.
Blink – Now reports the correct error message when attempted while sapped.
Blink – Fixed a bug where the spell incorrectly or failed to teleport the player.
 
--Paladin
 
Judgement of Fury – Design changed. Now forces the target to attack you.
Blessing of Salvation – Design changed. Now causes a friendly target to generate no additional threat for 10 seconds.
Consecration – Fixed a bug where the spell sometimes did nothing if cast in rapid succession.
Sanctity Aura – Design changed. Now increases healing done by 10% for party members within 30 yards.
Holy Shock – Cooldown reduced to 6 seconds.
Improved Blessing of Salvation – Design changed. Now increases the duration of your Blessing of Salvation by 2/4 sec.
 
--Rogues
 
Poisons will remain intact after you teleport, enter/exit an instance, or travel between continents.
Eviscerate (Rank 8) – Damage increased.
 
--Shaman
 
Totems are no longer immune to area of effect damage.
Shamans will no longer lose weapon skills after respeccing talents.
The tornado graphic from the Windfury Attack will now play consistently.
Combat Endurance – Now allows 25% of health regeneration to work while in combat.
 
--Warlocks
 
Improved Drain Mana – This talent can no longer have a critical effect.
Howl of Terror – This spell is now instant cast.
Improved Drain Soul – You will now receive the talent buff as long as Drain Soul is channeled when your target dies.
Shadow Mastery – Fixed a bug where the talent was not providing a bonus to Curse of Doom.
 
--Warriors
 
You will now retain up to 15 rage points when changing stances.
Tactical Mastery – This talent now increases the amount of rage retained when switching stances by 2/4/6/8/10.
Improved Shield Block – Fixed a bug where this talent was not providing additional block.
Whirlwind – Cooldown reduced to 4 seconds.
Death Wish – Fixed a bug where the skill sometimes did not break fear while used under the fear effect.
Bloodthirst – Tooltip updated.
Charge/Intercept – These abilities will now port you even if the target is immune to the effect.
 
--Items
 
Sets
Equipping more than five pieces of the Felheart set will now correctly give the Warlock’s pet the Demonic Ally buff.
The Cenarion Raiment set bonus that decreased the cooldown of Tranquility has been removed; a new set bonus has been added in its place that causes the Druid to automatically cast Rejuvenation (Rank 10) for free after casting Healing Touch.
The Lightforge Armor set has received a texture update.
The Rogue PvP reward sets have had their Strength removed and Agility increased.
The Judgement Armor set bonus that increases the radius of the Paladin’s Auras is now working correctly.
You can no longer lower your stats by equipping and un-equipping set bonus items.
The Lobotomizer will now proc correctly.
Tier 2 epic items now have new set bonuses and improved stats. Many of these items also have updated textures.
Reaching officer rank in the Honor System now grants you access to a new set of superior-quality weapons.
Judge’s Gavel can no longer be used to force players to drop the flag in Warsong Gulch.
The Gnomish Death Ray will no longer fail to cast from more than 20 yards away from the target.
Cruel Barb is now unique.
Cloak of Warding’s armor has been reduced, but an additional Stamina bonus has been added instead.
Orb of the Darkmoon now has an additional +9 Intellect bonus.
Pages from the Green Hills of Stranglethorn novel are now Bind on Pickup.
The Brushwood Blade item tooltip has been updated to indicate that it is a two-handed sword, not one-handed.
The Dartol’s Rod of Transformation obtained as a quest reward from the fourth part of Raene’s Cleansing is no longer useable.
Enchants will now function correctly on weapons that morph into other weapons.
Fixed a typo in the item tooltip of the Darkmoon Card: Twisting Nether.
Corrected art and textures for various items.
 
--Professions
 
It is now possible to retrain your specialty type for Leatherworking, Blacksmithing, or Engineering for a fee by speaking with a master trainer of your profession.
Plans for keyrings that hold multiple keys have been added to Blacksmithing.
Formulae for necklaces, rings, and new trinkets have been added to Enchanting.
Disenchanting now requires Expert Enchanting for rare items, and Artisan Enchanting for items of epic quality or higher.
 
--Quest
 
You can no longer accept the other faction’s quests.
A Druid Cat Form quest is now available at level 20 from Dendrite Starblaze in Moonglade.
It is no longer possible to receive a Dishonorable Kill from killing Private Merle after completing the Patrol Schedules quest.
More Gibbering Ghouls have been added to various Scourge strongholds for the Heroes of Darrowshire quest in Eastern Plaguelands.
The Deep Ocean, Vast Sea quest in Darkshore has been toned down in difficulty.
Fixed grammatical errors in The Missing Diplomat quest line.
 
 --Raids & Dungeons
 
Mobs around Goraluk Anvilcrack in UBRS will now path correctly.
It is no longer possible to pull Majordomo Executus’ minions without pulling Majordomo himself.
Fixed a bug where Jammal’an the Prophet would ignore a mind controlled player after the party wiped in Sunken Temple.
Keys will no longer dissappear when the keyholder dies and releases his or her spirit in Dire Maul.
The loot tables in Blackwing Lair have been revised slightly.
 
--User Interface
 
Meeting stones no longer search for party members. Instead, joining a meeting stone for a dungeon now adds you to a viewable list of players looking for a group. Groups can be formed by contacting players from this list.
Custom chat channels will now save after logging out.
There is now a separate tab in the Armor section of the Auction House listings called “Accessories”, which includes trinkets, rings, necklaces, and items held in the off-hand. The Miscellaneous tab has been removed.
The mouseover UI for Ranged Attack Power will now take into account your total ranged attack power.
Unique key bindings can now be saved for each class.
Resolved an issue where certain UI mods caused the honor tab to be aligned incorrectly with text.
Quest levels now appear in the quest log.
The ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_COOLDOWN event will no longer cause a lockup when a spell or skill interrupts a school of magic.
Logging out after joining another zone’s channel will no longer place you in a separate channel that is difficult to leave.
 
--World Environment
 
Closed several holes in the world.
Booty Bay is now flagged as outdoors.
There is now a warning sign that points to the cave where Vagash dwells in Dun Morogh.
The guards in Lakeshire have received promotions; they are now level 45.
If you die near a zone you have not discovered yet, you will no longer be ported to graveyards in that zone. Instead, you will be sent to the nearest known graveyard.
Fixed a bug where players sometimes appear in the incorrect graveyard after death.[#ffd400][/#ffd400]

dsl, déjà sur le forum officiel, j'y crois pas, déjà faut mettre le 1.7

Trop beau pour etre vrai (je suis rogue) les actions houses dans chaque grande ville j'y crois pas trop. Enfin bref attendons deja la 1.7 ...

Les ameliorations du druide j'ai aps tout tout compris, et je me fais pas encore le shema en tete mais, je m'attendais a autres choses, il on rajouté certain truccs pourrave d'autre bien et enlever certaines choses que j'aimais bien  
M'enfin c'est deja pas mal ils on changer des design rajouté 1 quete, j'attend d'avoir le patch note en francais pour voir si je reprend un abo.
On sait pas si c'est vrai aussi
 
ps : désoler si il y a des fautes je corrigerias en rentrant, la tout de suite j'ai mon heure de cour de l'aprem dans 10min

Fake

y'a des trucs que j'adore
 
* New Auction Houses in Stormwind, Darnassus, Thunderbluff, Undercity, Booty Bay, and Everlook are open and ready for business! Ask the guards in each city for directions. Auction Houses are now shared within a faction – Alliance, Horde, or the Steamwheedle Cartel. Extra heavy security in the form of Goblin Bouncers has been added to Auction Houses in goblin towns to put a stop to any… bidding wars.  
* Hearthstones can no longer be used while invulnerable.  
* Shapeshifting will no longer cancel a daze effect.  
* Dishonorable Kills will now apply only to the players    responsible, rather than to their entire party or raid.  
* You can now exit a battleground from an option on the scoreboard at all times.  
* You can now enter the queues of multiple battlegrounds simultaneously. Once you become eligible and choose to enter a battleground, you will automatically leave the other battleground queues.  
* Poisons will remain intact after you teleport, enter/exit an instance, or travel between continents.  
* Eviscerate (Rank 8) – Damage increased.  
* The Rogue PvP reward sets have had their Strength removed and Agility increased.  
* The Lobotomizer will now proc correctly.  
* It is now possible to retrain your specialty type for Leatherworking, Blacksmithing, or Engineering for a fee by speaking with a master trainer of your profession.  
* Formulae for necklaces, rings, and new trinkets have been added to Enchanting.  
* Disenchanting now requires Expert Enchanting for rare items, and Artisan Enchanting for items of epic quality or higher.  
 

 
/cheer  surement fake maisj espere pas

Les AH partagées ca le ferait vraiment !!!
 
Enfin ya deux trois trucs sympas quand meme
 
Mais c'est vrai que le patch note qui sort avant la 1.7 c'est louche

il sort pas avant car c'est pas une sorti officiel
 
ça doit ètre une fuite quelquonque
 
une fake pure surment pas
beacoups trops de détail et de chose qui serais même pas mentionné dans un fake

Le coup de la fuite, ils vont pas nous le faire a chaque patch quand même
 
Ya plein de truc tout a fait probable, mais quelque trucs comme l'engin de siege a Alterac soit disant prévu pour dash, le taunt du palouf, le +5% agi sur elfe (nawak ça) me paraissent un peu "gros" .

je veux je veux je veux

trop beau    
 
 

 
 
**prie pour que ce soit pas un fake **
 
 
 
trop de bonnes choses, le dernier "leaked patch notes" était pas un fake, il y a des chances que celui là non plus...
il subira peut être des modifications ceci dit

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T'façon les signatures ça sux
 
Kryska - Orquette Chaman niveau 70 - Ner'Zhul
Kanyar - Undead Mage niveau 60 - Ner'Zhul

ça j'espère que non en fait
parce que le troll shaman va vraiment valoir la peine

Mon avis reste mitigé ... Dans la dernière interview de JudgeHype ils ont dit qu'il y avait beaucoup de chemin à faire pour qu'il y ait des AH dans toutes les capitales. Enfin si c'est vraiment le patchnote, ça serait terrible (Et +1 pour le hurlement de terreur instantané )

 
 
tout a fait c'est surement pas un patch note finale la 1.8 n'étant pas sorti  
 Des chose peuvent ètre modifié durant les tests ou ne pas pouvoir ètre implémenté a temps comme les AH peut ètre ... en même temps ils n'y a pas de date de sortie non plus ...

De rien, fallait bien que quelqu'un s'y colle
 
 
Plus serieusement les changements de ce patch notes sont en total contradiction avec les dernieres annonces de Blibli

 
 
en quoi?

Par exemple :
 

Et un autre post que je retrouve pas ou il disait qu'on pouvait se brosser pour les poisons Mais bon peut être que la 1.8 sera assez lointaine pour qu'ils aient le temps de corriger ca
 

et il y a ca qui reste une vaste blague. Ca signe l'arret de mort du shaman en PvP et PvE.
 

blibli ne supporte pas les mods...
 
Bref je ne vais pas toute te les faire

Quand je vois les capacités du druide... J'en rêve d'avance
 
Mais bon, faut pas se leurrer, y'a des trucs un peu gros quand même...
 
(en même temps, on aurait vu un patch note nous disant qu'on aurait une cabine d'essayage je n'y aurai pas cru ^^')

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Chuck Norris a déjà compté jusqu'à l'infini. Deux fois.
Garona
BARE DURID IS 4 TANK, LOL!

 
 
oui bref rien qui puissent vraiment dire que c'est un fake ...  
le nerf du shaman est consequent mais de la a dire que ça signe ça mort... t'a jamais du te prendre orion critique + windfury ... (de plus je vois ça comme une correction de bug)
 
les mod?  le jeux a été fait pour les supporter depuis le début ...  

la partie concernant UI me semble quand meme tiree par les cheveux

T'as jamais du faire de PvE... Et c'est pas une correction de bug. A l'origine ils etaient sensible aux AE. Je n'ai pas cité toutes les incohérences.
 
Il me semble avoir lu que blibli arreterais les Battlegrounds un petit moment apres celui du prochain patch... mais je suis pas sur, faudrait que je retrouve le lien. De plus des choses comme :

me semble être d'une débilité sans nom... et je joue rogue

et alors il te disent de combien?  
 
dans le patch 1.5 : dsp of cat increase (pour résumer) ( on aura pas su de combien mais c'été proche du zero pourtant c'été dans le patch note officiel )  
dans le patch 1.7 : dsp of cat increase (pour résumer)
 
quand au pve pour le shamy y a plein d'endroit ou y a rien qui les cassera ( de toute fasson y a tellement peut de shaman qui savent ou ce servent de leur totem en pve que ça changera pas grand chose pour les instance de base )

le shami, c'est ni un DD, ni un healer, ni un tank et il bouffe une place.
 
Si tu lui vire ça capacité à soutenir les autres avec ses totems dans la majorité des instances... ou les aoe sont légions...
 
je ne donne pas cher du charisme des shamy en instance ^^
 
 
Déjà un shami qui pose pas de totem je l'engueule.

C'est vrai, rien ne me dit de cb mais si ils veulent que leur changement ne soit pas du vent il va falloir un sacré boost La comparaison avec le druide est bonne, ils feront surement du vent
 

partout où il y a des AE... soit à peu pres dans toutes les instances ? Quoique, peut être pas rage fire et les wailling caverns.
 
'fin bon moi je veux bien que ce ne soit pas un fake mais les modifs ressemblent plus à des souhaits de joueurs qu'autre chose. La modification sur le tactical mastery implique un changement profond du gameplay du warrior et un remaniement de beaucoup de template. Il y a des truc vraiment trop gros.

perso je vois pas de truc trops gros
 
y a tellement de truc trops petit comme on en vois que dans les patch note : genre on a refait l'icone de tel sort
 
pour les ae t'es pas forcement a porté d'ae
 
nottement quand tu met des totem de soutient au healer
 
et y a les ae tipe sort et les ae tipe le monstre touche plusieur cible
a mon avis le cas 2 afectera pas spécialement les totem car le nombre cible touché doit ètre définie ( au pire le totem mange a la place d'un joeur )  
les AE tipe sort je prend au pif HAche tripe Nord j'en ais pas souvenir  

moi je vote :  il bluffe.

Les pet des warlocks ?

 
 
je sais pas générelement on les pètent ou les banissent avant qu'il est eu le temps dire ouf
 
je sais qu'il fond des stun de zone mais ça casse pas un totem ça
 
en tout cas quand on est pas au cac pas d'ae de ces mob donc on peut profiter de certain totem quand même ( regen mana et agilité pour les chasseur )

hum si les shamans perdent leurs totems contre les AOE c'est tout bonnement de l'antijeu hein ? A mc comment veux tu soutenir un tank si tes totems sont detruis au moindre aoe (et je ne parle meme pa de ragnaros qui fais un paquet d'aoe aussi)
 
alors avant de nous montrer des patchs notes tout le droit sorti de l'imagination d'un type qui devait etre en train de s'nemerder au boulot et qui a imaginé ca pour passer le temps je te conseille de reflechir maze

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Foxdif, Troll Chaman sur Kael'Thas. <Weak Guild>
Captain jean-luc picard of the USS enterprise

La pluie de feu se fait à distance donc ca peut toucher n'importe qui. Et puis bon rien n'indique que les totems sont immunisés aux AE physique (le contraire est meme dit). Donc tout ce qui est cleave & co c'est dans l'os. 'fin bref stop la mauvaise foi... les AE qui touchent les totems et c'est limite la fin du shaman en instance classique (ou presque) alors j'imagine meme pas à MC

 
En quoi ca signe l'arret de mort du chaman, surtout en pve ?
 
les totems sont immunises a la magie, les seuls zone qui peuvent les detruire sont les zones physiques, et a moins d 'etre un boulet et de foutre ses totems a 20 cm du main tank, les totems se feront pas detruire.
De plus un zone physique qui detruit les totems c'est plutot normal quand meme ...

+1 Gnou, sans compter le fear en instant du warlock et sans cooldown >< un peu trop abuse je trouve
 
+ le nouveau battleground alors que rien a eté annoncé (arathi avait eté annoncé 2 patchs avant qu'il sorte il me semble ) et les armes de siege a Alterac (qui sont dans la partie "a l'horizon" de la page en devellopement du site ~~)
 

 
   les totems sont pas immune magie (un coup de baguette ou un sort lvl 1 et pouf... a pus...)

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Ca franchement c'est une super bonne idée, ça peux changer beaucoup de comportement.  

Bon alors comme tu as du mal avec l'anglais je vais faire une petite traduction
 
Les totems ne sont plus immunisés aux degats de zone. (implicitement magique et physique sinon cela aurait été précisé) C'est la base d'une modification : ils le sont, ils ne le seront plus. D'autre question ?

 
 
j'ais jamais pris de pluie de feu dans HT nord
on doit pas joueur l'instance de la même manière  
 
les seul coups de zone que j'ais pris c'est les ogre au cac qui touche plusieur cible a la fois mais seulement au cac ( et je sais pas si c'est toute les cibles au cac)
 
pour ce qui est MC and co je pense simplement qu'il faudra reposer les totem  
ça augemente la difficulté de jeux mais empèche pas de s'en servir totalement
 
et puis ça pourrais éviter d'ètre over avec des truc comme ça  

 
cela dit ça sera peut ètre over pour le paladin ( qui est déjas over en pve on est plus à ça pret ) mais je sais pas comment fonctionne les aura de résistance du paladin

Sur les groupes de 2 warlocks donc deux pets sans demo dans notre groupe je vois mal comment tu peux les eviter totalement. Surtout quand ils enchainent le stun fin bref ce n'est pas vraiment le sujet

sinon je voudrais savoir comme tu explique la tonne de bug sencé ètre corrigé alors qu'on en entend casiment jamais parlé car mineur (mais qui sont bien la )  
 
sérieux je vois pas comment un gar ais pu construire un fake aussi long et précis